From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Tue Feb 1 01:30:45 2005 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:30:45 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] re: Contested Actions Message-ID: Last Novemebr we were discussing rules for contested actions in RQ/BRP and I pitched in a few ideas, as I'd been writing an article on that very topic for a Million Spheres (the new Eternal Champion./Stormbringer e-zine I'm co-editing)... >>* Sacrificing Percentiles from Attack to Lower >>opponent's Parry: Doh! Why didn't I think of that! >>I've been working to give my players more tactical >>options during toe-to-toe combat, and this is a great >>one. It can also shorten those 80% attack against 80% >>parry combats. >I really don't deserve any credit for this idea - I can remember using it >whilst running RQ at university in the late eighties and even then my >(hazy) memory is that I'd picked it up either from a WD article or a >discussion with other RQ fans, so it's a variant rule that has been around >for a while... What I have of coure realised recently is that I didn't get this idea from WD, or someones campaign... I got it from RuneQuest!! It's one of the combat benefits mentioned for RuneLords with attack skills over 100% in the RQII rulebook... cheers, Nick Middleton "Soon we'll be out, amid the cold world's strife, Soon we'll be sliding down the razor blade of life." Tom Lehrer, College Days From soltakss at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 03:08:15 2005 From: soltakss at yahoo.com (Simon Phipp) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050126082353.4860F2227A8@boomstick.screwheads.net> Message-ID: <20050207160816.89221.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> Is the rq rules digest still alive? Has crashbox crashed? Is anybody there? ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From mattley at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 03:11:30 2005 From: mattley at gmail.com (Matt Conrad) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:11:30 -0600 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050207160816.89221.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050126082353.4860F2227A8@boomstick.screwheads.net> <20050207160816.89221.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: nod On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:08:15 +0000 (GMT), Simon Phipp wrote: > Is the rq rules digest still alive? > > Has crashbox crashed? > > Is anybody out there? > > > ___________________________________________________________ > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > RQ-Rules mailing list > RQ-Rules at crashbox.com > http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules > http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules > From bick10 at comcast.net Tue Feb 8 03:18:19 2005 From: bick10 at comcast.net (bick10 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:18:19 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? Message-ID: <020720051618.23738.420794CB00024EAD00005CBA2206998499CFCE050C070D@comcast.net> > Is the rq rules digest still alive? Breathing at least. > Has crashbox crashed? > > Is anybody there? I am. Other lists and Forms that I am on are quieter than usual too. The quietness was even a thread on a list. So, while this list is dead silent, it is not all that alone. Jim From jurrubin at earthlink.net Tue Feb 8 03:40:10 2005 From: jurrubin at earthlink.net (David Smart) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:40:10 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? Message-ID: <11417985.1107794410611.JavaMail.root@fozzie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Maybe everyone's still recovering from their SuperBowl parties? David -----Original Message----- From: bick10 at comcast.net Sent: Feb 7, 2005 10:18 AM To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? > Is the rq rules digest still alive? Breathing at least. > Has crashbox crashed? > > Is anybody there? I am. Other lists and Forms that I am on are quieter than usual too. The quietness was even a thread on a list. So, while this list is dead silent, it is not all that alone. Jim _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From leonbk at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 03:58:20 2005 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:58:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <11417985.1107794410611.JavaMail.root@fozzie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20050207165820.19380.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> > Maybe everyone's still recovering from their > SuperBowl parties? > > David Or more likely, there is just lack of topic at this moment. So how about this for a new Spirit spell: Drain 4pt Ranged, Instant If the target's power is overcomed, the target's strength is reduced to 1. The loss is temporary and will return at a rate of 4 points each of the following rounds until fully restored. All encumbrance, modifiers and weapons minimums should be checked each round as Strength returns. Magical strength, such as Strength spell, is not drained. Example: Hartuc has cast Strength 4 on himself and his current Strength is 27. If effected by Drain his Strength will be 13 the following round, then 17 the round after, and so on. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From carpgachair at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 04:06:49 2005 From: carpgachair at yahoo.com (Paul Cardwell) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:06:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050207165820.19380.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050207170649.92575.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> --- Leon Kirshtein wrote: > Or more likely, there is just lack of topic at this > moment. So how about this for a new Spirit spell: > > Drain > 4pt Ranged, Instant > > If the target's power is overcomed, the target's > strength is reduced to 1. The loss is temporary and > will return at a rate of 4 points each of the > following rounds until fully restored. All > encumbrance, modifiers and weapons minimums should > be > checked each round as Strength returns. > > Magical strength, such as Strength spell, is not > drained. > > Example: Hartuc has cast Strength 4 on himself and > his > current Strength is 27. If effected by Drain his > Strength will be 13 the following round, then 17 the > round after, and so on. Without spell protection, Nudic collapses under the weight of backpack and weaponry, the shield hitting him in the open helm face doing the full D4 damage and rendering him unconscious. Wow, that is better than Disruption's maximum three. If that doesn't convince the kiddies that they should study their math, nothing will! :-) Paul Cardwell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From kruch7 at cox.net Tue Feb 8 04:18:25 2005 From: kruch7 at cox.net (Joseph Elric Smith Mormon Minion of Arioch) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:18:25 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? References: <020720051618.23738.420794CB00024EAD00005CBA2206998499CFCE050C070D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005e01c50d39$08bae450$1108a8c0@kenneith93j41k> yes Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? >> Is the rq rules digest still alive? > > Breathing at least. > >> Has crashbox crashed? >> >> Is anybody there? > > I am. > > Other lists and Forms that I am on are quieter than usual too. The > quietness was even a thread on a list. So, while this list is dead > silent, it is not all that alone. > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > RQ-Rules mailing list > RQ-Rules at crashbox.com > http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules > http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 From leonbk at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 04:22:30 2005 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:22:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050207170649.92575.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050207172230.13186.qmail@web41122.mail.yahoo.com> --- Paul Cardwell wrote: > > Drain > > 4pt Ranged, Instant > > > > If the target's power is overcomed, the target's > > strength is reduced to 1. The loss is temporary > and > > will return at a rate of 4 points each of the > > following rounds until fully restored. All > > encumbrance, modifiers and weapons minimums should > > be > > checked each round as Strength returns. > > > > Magical strength, such as Strength spell, is not > > drained. > > > > Example: Hartuc has cast Strength 4 on himself and > > his > > current Strength is 27. If effected by Drain his > > Strength will be 13 the following round, then 17 > the > > round after, and so on. > > Without spell protection, Nudic collapses under the > weight of backpack and weaponry, the shield hitting > him in the open helm face doing the full D4 damage > and > rendering him unconscious. Wow, that is better than > Disruption's maximum three. If that doesn't > convince > the kiddies that they should study their math, > nothing will! :-) Nudic obvoiusly needs better equipment or some CON training. :) Disrupt is only a 1 point spell and this is 4, but it can be very dangerous, especially for someone riding! ===== Leon Kirshtein www.godlearner.d2g.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From murfnmurf at suscom.net Tue Feb 8 11:29:26 2005 From: murfnmurf at suscom.net (murfnmurf at suscom.net) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:29:26 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050207160816.89221.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050207160816.89221.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is the rq rules digest still alive? Has crashbox crashed? Is anybody there? I don't know qbout everyone else, but I'm still alive--though not brimming over with RQ relevant insights right at the moment :) -Ken- ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From stolenbjorn at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 19:04:22 2005 From: stolenbjorn at hotmail.com (Bjorn Stolen) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:04:22 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <11417985.1107794410611.JavaMail.root@fozzie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: >Maybe everyone's still recovering from their SuperBowl parties? Errr...no? As a representetive for the huge Norwegian contingent on this mail-list, I can only say that my absence on this forum have nothing to do with US sporting events (It's actually fun how different your sports are from ours. I bet you even haven't heard about biathlon!, while to us baseball is somthing we're forced to play when we're kids in the breaks in school when the teacher wants to have a variation from football (which isn't what you call football but soccer). I'm pretty busy at work + that I've been organizing a costume ball, arranged a LARP and am preparing to participate in another LARP pretty soon and am organizing yet another LARP coming up this summer (a Call of Cthulhu-larp). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com Med markedets beste SPAM-filter. Gratis! From stolenbjorn at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 19:07:15 2005 From: stolenbjorn at hotmail.com (Bjorn Stolen) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:07:15 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Are we still alive? In-Reply-To: <20050207170649.92575.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like it. I'll ad it to my house-rule-spell-list if you don't mind. >>So how about this for a new Spirit spell: > > > > Drain > > 4pt Ranged, Instant > > > > If the target's power is overcomed, the target's > > strength is reduced to 1. The loss is temporary and > > will return at a rate of 4 points each of the > > following rounds until fully restored. All > > encumbrance, modifiers and weapons minimums should > > be > > checked each round as Strength returns. > > > > Magical strength, such as Strength spell, is not > > drained. > > > > Example: Hartuc has cast Strength 4 on himself and > > his > > current Strength is 27. If effected by Drain his > > Strength will be 13 the following round, then 17 the > > round after, and so on. > >Without spell protection, Nudic collapses under the >weight of backpack and weaponry, the shield hitting >him in the open helm face doing the full D4 damage and >rendering him unconscious. Wow, that is better than >Disruption's maximum three. If that doesn't convince >the kiddies that they should study their math, nothing >will! :-) > >Paul Cardwell _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com Med markedets beste SPAM-filter. Gratis! From peter at maranci.net Wed Feb 9 22:26:18 2005 From: peter at maranci.net (Peter Maranci) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 06:26:18 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Message-ID: * "Mike" wrote: >Can anyone recommend some good RuneQuest-related >computer utilities and/or content sites? Well, there's my site: http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm . No utilities (although if anyone would care to supply some, they'd be welcome), but lots of content. Welcome back, by the way! ->Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Maranci peter at maranci.net Woonsocket, RI Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! - http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm From jurrubin at earthlink.net Thu Feb 10 02:09:55 2005 From: jurrubin at earthlink.net (David Smart) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:09:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Message-ID: <12109267.1107961795072.JavaMail.root@rowlf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> I'll second Peter's comment with one minor change. His site is awesome. As for RQ-related software, do a google search for "runequest character generator". I usually find a bunch of related software on the sites in the search return set. David -----Original Message----- From: Peter Maranci Sent: Feb 9, 2005 5:26 AM To: rq-rules at crashbox.com Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ * "Mike" wrote: >Can anyone recommend some good RuneQuest-related >computer utilities and/or content sites? Well, there's my site: http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm . No utilities (although if anyone would care to supply some, they'd be welcome), but lots of content. Welcome back, by the way! ->Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Maranci peter at maranci.net Woonsocket, RI Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! - http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From Alain.RAMEAU at total.com Thu Feb 10 02:56:56 2005 From: Alain.RAMEAU at total.com (Alain.RAMEAU at total.com) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:56:56 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Message-ID: There is an old (in Basic language !) character creation system, and random NPC in javascript, you can still find on my old English version RQ site : http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rqgb.htm Alain "Mike" wrote: >Can anyone recommend some good RuneQuest-related >computer utilities and/or content sites? From slposey at concentric.net Thu Feb 10 03:19:47 2005 From: slposey at concentric.net (Stephen Posey) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 08:19:47 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420A3823.2010903@concentric.net> Alain.RAMEAU at total.com wrote: > There is an old (in Basic language !) character creation system, and > random NPC in javascript, you can still find on my old English version RQ > site : > > http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rqgb.htm I've been meaning to take that and give it an updated interface. Of course, I've been MEANING to do a lot of things ;-) There's also the Call of Cthulhu module for Metacreator which could be pressed into service, and could be tweaked into an even more RQ configuration with a bit of work (something else on the "meaning to do" list). http://www.alteregosoftware.com/ Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net From slposey at concentric.net Thu Feb 10 03:23:44 2005 From: slposey at concentric.net (Stephen Posey) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 08:23:44 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420A3910.5040602@concentric.net> Alain.RAMEAU at total.com wrote: > There is an old (in Basic language !) character creation system, and > random NPC in javascript, you can still find on my old English version RQ > site : > > http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rqgb.htm Just after I hit "send" on that last email I stumbled across this: Kev's RuneQuest Character Generator v2.0 http://users.senet.com.au/~kspencer/rq3.htm Cool! Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net From peter at maranci.net Thu Feb 10 03:36:45 2005 From: peter at maranci.net (peter at maranci.net) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:36:45 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Are we still alive? (OT, sorry) Message-ID: <83520-22005239163645977@M2W099.mail2web.com> *Bjorn Stolen (stolenbjorn at hotmail.com) wrote: >I bet you even haven't heard about biathlon! No, my wife doesn't like that kinky stuff. Sorry, couldn't resist. :D ->Peter -- Peter Maranci peter at maranci.net Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From carpgachair at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 05:02:51 2005 From: carpgachair at yahoo.com (Paul Cardwell) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:02:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Are we still alive? (OT, sorry) In-Reply-To: <83520-22005239163645977@M2W099.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <20050209180252.32551.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> > *Bjorn Stolen (stolenbjorn at hotmail.com) wrote: >I bet you even haven't heard about biathlon! Yeah, it is a device to disguise ski-borne infantry training as a sport. Paul Cardwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jurrubin at earthlink.net Thu Feb 10 06:08:00 2005 From: jurrubin at earthlink.net (David Smart) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:08:00 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Message-ID: <8359419.1107976080401.JavaMail.root@waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Bingo! That's the one I use. What I really like about it is the data file format are relatively easy to figure out (well, for me) and I've been able to add in my own culture, weapons, spells, armor, etc. I've been using it for some time now and love it. David -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Posey Sent: Feb 9, 2005 10:23 AM To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Alain.RAMEAU at total.com wrote: > There is an old (in Basic language !) character creation system, and > random NPC in javascript, you can still find on my old English version RQ > site : > > http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rqgb.htm Just after I hit "send" on that last email I stumbled across this: Kev's RuneQuest Character Generator v2.0 http://users.senet.com.au/~kspencer/rq3.htm Cool! Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From Alain.RAMEAU at total.com Thu Feb 10 19:43:36 2005 From: Alain.RAMEAU at total.com (Alain.RAMEAU at total.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:43:36 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Bound spirit MP recovery Message-ID: Hi, Could someone remind me the RQIII rule for a bound spirit to recover its MP, after using them (e.g. power spirit, spell spirit, ...). Is it standard recovery (i.e. all MP in 1 day), no recovery while bound, reduced recovery, other rule ... ? Any house rule on same ? Alain http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rq.htm From stolenbjorn at hotmail.com Thu Feb 10 21:35:50 2005 From: stolenbjorn at hotmail.com (Bjorn Stolen) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:35:50 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Bound spirit MP recovery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've used "standard recovery", but you rais a very interresting question. As theese bound spirits are quite powerful compared to for instance magic point matrixes, making the keeper having to supply mp's to his bound spirits is a nice way of making them less powerful. Inspired by the "world of darknes"-setting that emphasize improvisation, I've come up with a houserule of my own: It isn't that easy to bind spirits, as they're initially hostile to becoming bound. I thought that how hostile spirits are should be possible to negotiate between the potental binder and the potential "victim" (i.e. the spirit). An Aldryami warrior wanting to bind a forest spirit into somthing to protect the forrest should have a greater chanse of talking the spirit into (litterary) the matrix than -say a Mostal sourcerer. I therefore have come up with the rule that if you want to bind a spirit by force, you can follow the standard rules, but if you want to barin with the spirit to bind it to an object, you can do that as well, with the result that the spirit enters the choosen object voulentarily (i.e. no resistance combat) on some given terms (limited time, ability to break the binding if some certain conditions are broken, etc.) >From: Alain.RAMEAU at total.com >Reply-To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." >To: rq-rules at crashbox.com >Subject: [RQ-Rules] Bound spirit MP recovery >Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:43:36 +0100 > >Hi, > >Could someone remind me the RQIII rule for a bound spirit to recover its >MP, after using them (e.g. power spirit, spell spirit, ...). Is it >standard recovery (i.e. all MP in 1 day), no recovery while bound, reduced >recovery, other rule ... ? > >Any house rule on same ? > >Alain >http://karamo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rq.htm > >_______________________________________________ >RQ-Rules mailing list >RQ-Rules at crashbox.com >http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules >http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com Med markedets beste SPAM-filter. Gratis! From luddite1 at tinyworld.co.uk Sat Feb 12 21:46:57 2005 From: luddite1 at tinyworld.co.uk (Simon Scott) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:46:57 -0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RQ4 Message-ID: This is probably an old question and the subject done to death, but what access is there to draft RQ4 material? I have managed to locate a copy of the 1st draft, which is written as a revision to RQ3, in that it references pages and sections to the RQ3 books (it is a sort of RQ3.5). However I understand that there was a 2nd draft of RQ4 in circulation for playtesting and discussion. Is this document available? If so, where? If not, can it be made available, similar to the 1st draft i.e. as a revision to RQ3 rather than as a complete document and rules system in its own right? The latter probably having copyrights. From leonbk at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 15:53:59 2005 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:53:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Godlearner trick In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050214045359.11626.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> I am currently running a Godlearner campaign and based on that, I have come up with several special rules. This "trick" allows Godlearners to sacrifice for various divine magic from many different cults, without resorting to Illumination, and still be hated everywhere they go. :) >From the lecture of Professor Addobbi on the basics of magic and religion: "Gods are the creation of Man and gain power through Man's belief in them. In return this pool of power is accessed by man through ceremonies and 'reenactments' (Divine/Rune Magic). We (Godlearners) realize that these erroneous beliefs never the less result in real pool of raw power which can be tapped by those with the proper knowledge and basic understanding of the core ideas common to all religions. These basic, all encompassing, and underling ideas are known as Runes. The closer a particular deity adheres to the particular Rune, the more powerful the magical effect can be generated by his Divine/Rune Magic. For us, the knowing, this is an opportunity. By studying the basic commonalities, these Runes, we can draw upon their power without the need to rely on the false believes of the self deluded." The Godlearner Trick. By studying a particular Rune a Godlearner understands the nature of the force that it governs. This gives the Godlearner the ability to sacrifices and re-pray for divine magic associated with that particular Rune. Each Rune has its particular Lore skill, which is used in a matter similar to Cult Lore then sacrificing for spells. Any spell associated with this Rune maybe sacrificed for. A sacrifice must take place in a temple to any deity who possess this Rune and only spells available to this deity may be received at this temple. Traveling from temple to temple will give access to different spells. If the spells are reusable they may be re-prayed for at any shrine dedicated to a deity associated with that Rune even if the deity himself does not offer that spell. For example a Godlearner with the knowledge of the Death Rune would be able to sacrifice for True Sword in a Humakti temple and Sever Spirit at either a Humakti temple or a Zorak Zorani temple, assuming he can gain access to either or both. He could however; re-pray for any of these spells at a Storm Bull temple, even though Storm Bull offers none of these. Each Rune has an associated Sanctify spell, which can be used to re-pray for the associated spells. The area affected by this spell acts in all respect like a normal Sanctify spell but has other effects (associated with the particular Rune) as well. For example all animals and plants will be slowly killed in an area affected by a Sanctify Death Rune spell. Bachelor A Bachelor is a student of Lore, someone who has the basic understanding of the concepts and is able to sacrifice for the spells associated with the Rune in question. Any Rune spells a Bachelor receives are considered on a one use basis Requirement: Lore Master A Master is a Godlearner who has spent a considerable amount of time studying a particular Rune and is versed in its application in the real world. All spells associated with the Rune a Master has studied are reusable to him, following the usual procedure for regaining divine magic. Requirement: Lore 75%, any two skill associated with the Rune 50% Note: Rune spells which are termed Common divine magic are considered to be associated with the Monomyth Lore and the practical skills for Bachelors Masters are any Lore, and any magic skills. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Tue Feb 15 17:03:32 2005 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:03:32 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: Returning to RQ Message-ID: Kev's generator is the best I have come past on the net so far. Nice bloke as well, his references to Net and Trident are courtersy of me (and Monster Colliseum) -----Original Message----- Stephen Posey ramo.nexenservices.com/glowar/rqgb.htm Just after I hit "send" on that last email I stumbled across this: Kev's RuneQuest Character Generator v2.0 http://users.senet.com.au/~kspencer/rq3.htm Cool! __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. 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Too rich for me I fear. I reckon I should start running a book on items like this, see who can guess the final bid amount, ha ha. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &rd=1&item=5958464084&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT T??ny __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. 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For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From aescleal at btinternet.com Tue Feb 22 19:18:40 2005 From: aescleal at btinternet.com (Ashley Munday) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Tales of Reaching Moon Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050222081840.42820.qmail@web86205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> The best way to buy early Tales is get a job lot. They go for far less than they would individually. So if you really want early issues, this is by far the best way of getting 'em. Most of the value is in the first 10 issues - a lot of the later ones can still be found in games shops. Cheers, Ash PS: My rule of thumb has been ?15 each for the first 5 issues, ?5 each for the next five and then a couple of quid for most of the rest. --- "Den, Tony T" wrote: > When a semi complete set featuring most of the early > issues comes up on > eBay, many people scramble. Too rich for me I fear. > I reckon I should start > running a book on items like this, see who can guess > the final bid amount, > ha ha. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > me=STRK:MEBI:IT> > &rd=1&item=5958464084&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT > > > > T??ny > > > __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note > > This e-mail, its attachments and any rights > attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly > indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank > Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). > It is confidential, private and intended for the > addressee only. > > Should you not be the addressee and receive this > e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and > delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose > or use same in any manner whatsoever. > > Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are > those of the sender unless clearly stated as those > of the Group. 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Still, will be interesting to see what this job lot goes for. -----Original Message----- Ashley Munday The best way to buy early Tales is get a job lot. They go for far less than they would individually. So if you really want early issues, this is by far the best way of getting 'em. Most of the value is in the first 10 issues - a lot of the later ones can still be found in games shops. Cheers, Ash PS: My rule of thumb has been ?15 each for the first 5 issues, ?5 each for the next five and then a couple of quid for most of the rest. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. 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For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From peter at maranci.net Thu Feb 24 11:27:06 2005 From: peter at maranci.net (Peter Maranci) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:27:06 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 Message-ID: * Simon Scott luddite1 at tinyworld.co.uk wrote: >...I understand that there was a 2nd draft of RQ4 in circulation for >playtesting and discussion. In fact, I think there was more than one version in circulation. >Is this document available? If so, where? If not, can it be made >available, similar to the 1st draft i.e. as a revision to RQ3 rather >than as a complete document and rules system in its own right? I have a copy, but unfortunately it's a hardcopy only. And it's huge; several hundred pages at least. Haven't looked at it in a long while, but if memory serves (and it usually does) it was still NOT complete. However, it was a stand-alone edition, not just a set of references and modifications of RQ3. As I recall, it was pretty good. Please note that this was RQ4: Adventures In Glorantha. Unfortunately I don't have access to bulk scanning or anything like that. And even if I did, the resulting PDF would be too huge to email. It does seem that there should be an electronic version *somewhere*... ->Peter -- Peter Maranci - pmaranci at gmail.com Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm ->Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Maranci peter at maranci.net Woonsocket, RI Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying!: http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm From lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au Thu Feb 24 12:00:03 2005 From: lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au (Lev Lafayette) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:00:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050224010003.6372.qmail@web21123.mail.yahoo.com> --- Peter Maranci wrote: > > I have a copy, but unfortunately it's a hardcopy > only. And it's huge; > several hundred pages at least. Haven't looked at it > in a long while, > but if memory serves (and it usually does) it was > still NOT complete. > However, it was a stand-alone edition, not just a > set of references > and modifications of RQ3. As I recall, it was pretty > good. I seem to recall (and my memory is terrible) seeing an incomplete, several hundred pages long version in Perth, Western Australia about ten or so years ago. > It does seem that there should be an electronic > version *somewhere*... I presume as much as well, although google ain't much help (although I have just found and downloaded a Spanish version of RQ 4, 120pp, 1992, Word file). Now it is possible that someone paid for the postage from North America to WA for a hardcopy (many RQ are that fanatic, ahh, dedicated), but it seems more probably that it was from an electronic copy... All the best, Lev ===== Lev Lafayette lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From leonbk at yahoo.com Thu Feb 24 12:04:25 2005 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:04:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 In-Reply-To: <20050224010003.6372.qmail@web21123.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050224010425.24176.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com> >>It does seem that there should be an electronic version *somewhere*... There is, but I am not sure about the legality of making it public. If you wish to discuss it. Please email me. ===== Leon Kirshtein www.godlearner.d2g.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au Thu Feb 24 12:40:14 2005 From: lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au (Lev Lafayette) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:40:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 Message-ID: <20050224014014.3012.qmail@web21127.mail.yahoo.com> *bashes head* Of course. The wayback engine... Why didn't I think of that sooner? etc... > > > It does seem that there should be an electronic > > version *somewhere*... > > I presume as much as well, although google ain't > much > help (although I have just found and downloaded a > Spanish version of RQ 4, 120pp, 1992, Word file). > > Now it is possible that someone paid for the postage > from North America to WA for a hardcopy (many RQ are > that fanatic, ahh, dedicated), but it seems more > probably that it was from an electronic copy... > > All the best, > > > Lev > > ===== > Lev Lafayette > lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au > http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > ===== Lev Lafayette lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Thu Feb 24 19:55:28 2005 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:55:28 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 Message-ID: Leon I am not sure of legaility either, but it was a distribution document for comment on a now defiunct system. Any BRP connotation appears to eb RQIII related. Methinks no one would really care. Besides, I live in another cluntry so am not sure how bound I am by US copywrite laws. Is ther eany disclaimer/copyrite/patent pending opn the PDF in question? Tony -----Original Message----- From: rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com [mailto:rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com] On Behalf Of Leon Kirshtein Sent: 24 February 2005 03:04 To: RuneQuest rules discussion. Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 >>It does seem that there should be an electronic version *somewhere*... There is, but I am not sure about the legality of making it public. If you wish to discuss it. Please email me. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. 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For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Thu Feb 24 20:06:38 2005 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:06:38 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 Message-ID: >Leon > >I am not sure of legaility either, but it was a distribution document for >comment on a now defiunct system. Any BRP connotation appears to eb RQIII >related. Methinks no one would really care. Try selling copies (it's still covered by copyright), especially where Greg Stafford knows (it makes extensive reference to Glorantha which is Issaries' Trademark, as is "Runequest" these days)... > Besides, I live in another >cluntry so am not sure how bound I am by US copywrite laws. Is ther eany >disclaimer/copyrite/patent pending opn the PDF in question? >Tony IIRC South Africa (did I remember correctly?) is signatory to several of the international treaties regarding copyright (I think the Trademark situation's a little murkier) and yes, from what was said last time this was mentioned the relatively complete RQIV: Adventures in Glorantha that was about DID have quite clear copyright assertions - part of the difficulty of doing any thing with it is that several of the main authors are no longer easily contactable, the setting IP and name are now with Issaries and copyright to the RQIII rules on which RQIV was based (explicitly so IIRC in its copyright declaration) are back with Chaosium. So doing anything "official" or "legal" is mired in complexity alas. We ought to ask Jason Durall if RQIV has been mentioned in relation to Deluxe Basic Role Playing however. Cheers, Nick Middleton From pmaranci at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 06:50:00 2005 From: pmaranci at gmail.com (Peter Maranci) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:50:00 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers Message-ID: Just letting everyone know that I've been forced to take the RuneQuest Wiki down. The spammers have been relentlessly attacking it, non-stop, day after day. Sometimes they deleted the legitimate entries, sometimes they just spewed their crap above or below the real entry. Some of them wrote "if this bothers you just delete" and then instantly re-posted their garbage when I removed it. Others posted "Im Sorry" above their drug-and-sex site links for no sane reason. One threatened to delete my whole site and beat me up into the bargain! I've had it. I backed everything up a while ago, and I've deleted the wiki. I'll find a secure alternative and put the data back up as soon as possible. Thanks to everyone who contributed to it - once there's some sort of registration or password system in place, drop me a line and I'll make sure you have access. PS - If anyone wants a Gmail invite, let me know. I have 49 of them to give away! -- Peter Maranci - pmaranci at gmail.com Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm From tim at domibia.com Sat Feb 26 07:02:21 2005 From: tim at domibia.com (Tim Huntley) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:02:21 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers References: Message-ID: <000c01c51b74$eabc9170$01080165@scuhs.edu> > Just letting everyone know that I've been forced to take the RuneQuest > Wiki down. While I totally understand, that sucks. You should check out editme.com - they are a wiki host, and it's all pretty tight. You can set it up blog-like, or wiki-like, with or without user-level login. Cheap, too. Tim. From freyrvanic at earthlink.net Sat Feb 26 07:28:49 2005 From: freyrvanic at earthlink.net (Sven Lugar) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:28:49 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please let us know the names of these spammers so we can make sure not to patronize them. Also as to the one who threatened you, If you still have a copy of the message they can be put away for 5 to 15 years in a Federal Penitentiary. -----Original Message----- From: rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com [mailto:rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com]On Behalf Of Peter Maranci Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:50 AM To: RuneQuest-Rules Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers Just letting everyone know that I've been forced to take the RuneQuest Wiki down. The spammers have been relentlessly attacking it, non-stop, day after day. Sometimes they deleted the legitimate entries, sometimes they just spewed their crap above or below the real entry. Some of them wrote "if this bothers you just delete" and then instantly re-posted their garbage when I removed it. Others posted "Im Sorry" above their drug-and-sex site links for no sane reason. One threatened to delete my whole site and beat me up into the bargain! I've had it. I backed everything up a while ago, and I've deleted the wiki. I'll find a secure alternative and put the data back up as soon as possible. Thanks to everyone who contributed to it - once there's some sort of registration or password system in place, drop me a line and I'll make sure you have access. PS - If anyone wants a Gmail invite, let me know. I have 49 of them to give away! -- Peter Maranci - pmaranci at gmail.com Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From pmaranci at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 07:42:19 2005 From: pmaranci at gmail.com (Peter Maranci) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:42:19 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers Message-ID: * Tim Huntley (tim at domibia.com) wrote: >You should check out editme.com - they are a wiki host, and it's all pretty >tight. You can set it up blog-like, or wiki-like, with or without >user-level login. Cheap, too. Unfortunately "cheap" is still beyond my means - for now. But that should change shortly. The two free options I have are tikiwiki and phpwiki. But I won't do ANYTHING until I'm sure that they're secure. If they aren't, I'll wait for the money to come in and try editme.com. * Sven Lugar (freyrvanic at earthlink.net) wrote: >Please let us know the names of these spammers so we can make sure not to >patronize them. Somehow I'm pretty sure that no one here would patronize those sites in any case. They were all for illegal painkillers, erection drugs, and particularly raunchy pornography, as far as I could tell. Not that I actually opened any of the links; that would be just ASKING for a permanent case of computer-clap. :D >Also as to the one who threatened you, If you still have a copy of the message >they can be put away for 5 to 15 years in a Federal Penitentiary. It's a nice thought, but unfortunately the messages are locked in the SQL database of the wiki...and that was deleted. I must say, my hatred for spammers has increased ENORMOUSLY over the past year... -- Peter Maranci - pmaranci at gmail.com Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying! http://www.runequest.org/rq.htm From jurrubin at earthlink.net Sat Feb 26 08:23:59 2005 From: jurrubin at earthlink.net (David Smart) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:23:59 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 Message-ID: <28271145.1109366639804.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Eh? "wayback engine"? Could you explain, please? David -----Original Message----- From: Lev Lafayette Sent: Feb 23, 2005 7:40 PM To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 *bashes head* Of course. The wayback engine... Why didn't I think of that sooner? From lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au Sat Feb 26 09:34:31 2005 From: lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au (Lev Lafayette) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:34:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 In-Reply-To: <28271145.1109366639804.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20050225223431.71121.qmail@web21128.mail.yahoo.com> www.archive.org It keeps tracks of old webpages, even those which have been deleted or changed. IIRC it has special exemption from copyright law as well... --- David Smart wrote: > Eh? "wayback engine"? Could you explain, please? > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lev Lafayette > Sent: Feb 23, 2005 7:40 PM > To: "RuneQuest rules discussion." > > Subject: Re: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 > > > *bashes head* > > Of course. The wayback engine... Why didn't I think > of > that sooner? > > _______________________________________________ > RQ-Rules mailing list > RQ-Rules at crashbox.com > http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules > http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules > ===== Lev Lafayette lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From tim at domibia.com Sat Feb 26 09:45:23 2005 From: tim at domibia.com (Tim Huntley) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:45:23 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 References: <20050225223431.71121.qmail@web21128.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c51b8b$b2318100$01080165@scuhs.edu> > www.archive.org So what URL was the RQ4 stuff at? Tim. From lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au Sat Feb 26 09:41:38 2005 From: lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au (Lev Lafayette) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:41:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050225224139.30639.qmail@web21122.mail.yahoo.com> --- Peter Maranci wrote: > > I must say, my hatred for spammers has increased > ENORMOUSLY over the > past year... > Just on that note, the ITU estimates that the percentage of emails send that are spam has increased from 35% in 2003 to 85% in 2004... Fortunately, most are stopped at the ISP level... Late last year I atteneded a talk by Geoff Huston of the Internet Architecture Board. He's seriously concerned - are a lot of people in this industry - that spam *could* actually kill the Internet. ===== Lev Lafayette lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From michael at messiahbomb.com Sat Feb 26 09:29:17 2005 From: michael at messiahbomb.com (Michael Christian) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:29:17 -0800 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Off topic a bit Message-ID: <003801c51b89$720077f0$0300a8c0@spacelord> I don't know if anyone on this list is playing World of Warcraft online right now, but if they are it might be fun to hook up in-game sometime. This occured to me the other day when I ran across a player named Thanatar and we started talking RQ. The two characters I play have been named Jakaleel and Wakboth. Not very original I know, but also names not taken already. Anyhow, I play horde characters on the Destromath server if anyone is interested. Michael From lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au Sat Feb 26 09:54:02 2005 From: lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au (Lev Lafayette) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:54:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 In-Reply-To: <000401c51b8b$b2318100$01080165@scuhs.edu> Message-ID: <20050225225402.32188.qmail@web21122.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tim Huntley wrote: > > www.archive.org > > So what URL was the RQ4 stuff at? > Ahh, google is your friend! http://members.aol.com/Ethesis/mw2/hero/he1/rqiv.htm ===== Lev Lafayette lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au http://au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From pmj at comhem.se Sat Feb 26 10:01:42 2005 From: pmj at comhem.se (Peter Johansson) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 00:01:42 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: RQ4 In-Reply-To: <20050225225402.32188.qmail@web21122.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050225225402.32188.qmail@web21122.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <421FAE56.6020907@comhem.se> Looking at the webpage indicated below makes me realise why RQ IV was never published. :-) /Peter J Lev Lafayette wrote: >--- Tim Huntley wrote: > > >> So what URL was the RQ4 stuff at? > >Ahh, google is your friend! > >http://members.aol.com/Ethesis/mw2/hero/he1/rqiv.htm > >===== >Lev Lafayette > > From peter.brink at brinkdata.se Sat Feb 26 19:17:56 2005 From: peter.brink at brinkdata.se (Peter Brink) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 09:17:56 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RuneQuest wiki killed by spammers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422030B4.7090404@brinkdata.se> Peter Maranci skrev: > > Unfortunately "cheap" is still beyond my means - for now. But that > should change shortly. The two free options I have are tikiwiki and > phpwiki. But I won't do ANYTHING until I'm sure that they're secure. > If they aren't, I'll wait for the money to come in and try editme.com. I use wiki software as a CMS solution on two sites and as a traditional wiki on another. From my experience if you implement user-level security but allow anyone to register and become a user you really don't solve a thing. You will need manage user accounts very tight. It's best IMO to restrict the ability to edit pages to Editors and then only in some parts of the wiki. This of course runs against the fundamental idea of wikis but spammers have abused the freedom of wikis to such an degree, that I at least don't think it's worth the trouble of keeping an wiki world writable and spam free. For example you set up the wki so that a prospective editor would need to apply for an Editor account and then *you* create the account and send the details to the email account included in the application. So what you are looking for is a wiki that has user-level login *and* a configuration option which shuts off the ability to register an user without admin approval. A quick check on tikiwiki and phpwiki leaves me with the impression that tikiwiki should have more features which might aid you in creating a secure wiki - but tikiwiki is really a full fledged CMS/Portal system so you might find it a bit daunting to set it up... /Peter