<p dir="ltr">This is very intriguing.</p>
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1. Re: Quick-and-dirty skill pyramid (Sven Lugar)<br>
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:53:57 -0800<br>
From: Sven Lugar <<a href="mailto:vikingjarl@gmail.com">vikingjarl@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: RuneQuest Rules <<a href="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Runequest] Quick-and-dirty skill pyramid<br>
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Actually Styopa is correct & you are some. It's in the original version<br>
notes & discussions, but didn't become "official" if I recall correctly.<br>
If I remember correctly the "official" one was to roll a D10 & if it was<br>
a 1 or 2 your character is left-handed, a "0" meant ambidextrous. A<br>
variant on the D6/D12 included if the scores matched then the character<br>
was ambidextrous. I have that hand written in my notes somewhere.<br>
<br>
To address the being "Dexterous vs left-handed":<br>
Another variant for that I played with when I was doing a VSF (now known<br>
as Steampunk) for testing setting variants back in '78 split the<br>
characteristics into paired characteristics. The Basic routine was to<br>
roll 2D10 (or 3D6 - is what I used originally) & assign them to the<br>
"Parent Characteristic" (the classic ones STR, CON, etc). Then you break<br>
up the value into two "Paired Characteristics" that match the Parent<br>
(these are the ones that actually get used in game play when you need to<br>
roll a basic percent or use an add-on). I then used the D6/D12 routine<br>
ofr D10 version depending on what Steve was using at the time.<br>
<br>
Hopefully the charts survive getting yahoo-ed. If not send me an email &<br>
I'll send you the original chapter.<br>
<br>
<br>
Comparison of the Paired Characteristic for each Parent Characteristic<br>
<br>
Strength<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Athletic*is more aerobic, long lasting flexible strength like a gymnast<br>
on the uneven bars.<br>
<br>
*Brute*is more instantaneous like a weight lifter.<br>
<br>
Constitution<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Durability*is the resistance and stamina against stress. <Wei Qi><br>
<br>
*Health*is the current measure of physical homeostasis. <Jing><br>
<br>
Mass<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Bulk*is the breadth, the build, ectomorph, mesomorph, endomoprh<br>
<br>
*Height*is how tall.<br>
<br>
---The size ratio is the balance between these two because that does<br>
have a measurable physiological difference.<br>
<br>
Dexterity<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Quickness*is the reflexive speed of an individual<br>
<br>
*Coordination*is the flexibility & the capability of subtle movement<br>
<br>
Appearance<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Features*is the pleasant, physical looks<br>
<br>
*Presence*is the non-physical attractiveness that allows even some ugly<br>
bastard to attract a happy crowd<br>
<br>
Intelligence<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Learning*, the ability to acquire, store, & access knowledge (left brain)<br>
<br>
*Intuition*is the insight, often subconscious, the native awareness &<br>
perception of ones environment. (right brain)<br>
<br>
Gnosis<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*Wisdom*is more an intellectual connection the ability to feel a moral<br>
plan & connection to a Divine Spirit (more human centric)<br>
<br>
*Anima*is more instinctual, more mystic. Sees life & connections in<br>
everything natural.<br>
<br>
<br>
Each Parent characteristic is broken into two paired characteristics as<br>
follows, which also includes a description of the characteristics.<br>
<br>
Parent Charac.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Dice<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Paired Characteristic<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
description<br>
<br>
STR<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Athletic<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Aerobic, long-term basis of stamina<br>
<br>
(strength)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Brute<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
hitting, lifting, short-term immediate - explosive<br>
<br>
CON<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Durability<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Resistance to damage<br>
<br>
(constitution)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Health<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Overall Health (damage sickness, etc)<br>
<br>
MAS<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bulk<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
weight<br>
<br>
(mass)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Height<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
tallness<br>
<br>
DEX<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Quickness<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
speed, reflex, twitch muscles<br>
<br>
(dexterity)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Coordination<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
flexibility, nimbleness<br>
<br>
APP<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Features<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
regular looks<br>
<br>
(appearance)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Presence<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
charm<br>
<br>
INT<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Learning<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
ability to learn,increases readily, not the same as Education<br>
<br>
(intelligence)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Intuition<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Insight, an subconscious awareness of environment<br>
<br>
GNO<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2D10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Wisdom<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Connection to the Gods... Deity strength<br>
<br>
(gnosis)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Anima<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Assign 1-19<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Personal strength connection to spirits of nature<br>
<br>
<br>
I revisited this for a campaign I was running back 2006 to 2008 & have a<br>
bunch of rough files in a MS-Word 2007 if anyone is particularly<br>
interested.<br>
<br>
Sk?l,<br>
Sven<br>
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On 11/19/2013 12:36 PM, Peter Maranci wrote:<br>
> That's interesting! I've been playing RPGs for almost as long, and<br>
> that method (or some variant using two dice of similar proportions,<br>
> such as a D4 and D8, or a D10 and D20) was used by every gamer I ever<br>
> met. I seem to recall reading it somewhere, but I don't remember<br>
> where. Maybe it's a regional gaming custom, extending from the US East<br>
> Coast at least out to Pennsylvania.<br>
><br>
> I don't remember ever seeing ambidexterity represented as being<br>
> *higher* Dexterity, though. It was often considered desirable - more<br>
> so in D&D than RQ - but actually increasing the characteristic<br>
> seems...odd.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Styopa <<a href="mailto:styopa1@gmail.com">styopa1@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:styopa1@gmail.com">styopa1@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Peter Maranci <<a href="mailto:pmaranci@gmail.com">pmaranci@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pmaranci@gmail.com">pmaranci@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Doesn't RQ use the usual method of resolving handedness? That<br>
> is, rolling a D6 and a D12? If the roll on the D6 exceeds that<br>
> on the D12, the character is left-handed. If the result is<br>
> equal, the character is ambidextrous. Otherwise, the character<br>
> is right-handed. I've been doing it that way for so long that<br>
> I just assumed it was in the system, but now I'm wondering if<br>
> that was actually taken from some other system!<br>
><br>
><br>
> The "usual" method?<br>
> It's clever, but I've been playing RPGs since 1979, and I don't<br>
> recall EVER hearing that method...<br>
><br>
> Wasn't perhaps Arduin Grimoire the first to have a character<br>
> advantage table? Boy, that's hard to remember.<br>
><br>
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