I've never heard of a RuneQuest 11, although I'm religiously avoiding Mongoose RQ - for all I know, Stafford could have authorized them to publish RuneQuest 1,000,000.<br><br>But I suspect that you're talking about RuneQuest II, that is, RQ2 in Roman numerals. Does that make sense to you?<br>
<br>->Peter<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:25 AM, harry woolley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harryw1602@yahoo.co.uk">harryw1602@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>can any body explain to me why there is a runequest 11 as ther is 3 and 4 do the new additions not inprove on the ones before,should it not be called 5 as it is a inproved version,</div>
<div>i was only a infantry so could you core men explain,thanks.</div>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>i guys ive just put all my pathfinder stuff on ebay i liked it but i miss my runequest to much so any body wants it cheep just go to role play and type in path finder and see how cheap it realy is.<br>
????????????????????? harry p.s.<br>????????????????? my dragon mountain in runequest is still going great they have reached the foot of the mountain,but the village is under attack from the kobolts,and lots off other nastys i can think of let you know what happens and some new pictures.<br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi,<br><br>Your campaign looks very
interesting.<br><br>I've only recently run my first heroquest in my RQ3 campaign, and it was a<br>"this-world heroquest", as described in the Sartar book (it was actually the<br>River Ritual described in Sun County). That means that the power of the<br>
heroplane is invoked on the mundane plane, so everything happens in the<br>mundane plane.<br><br>I'm still not sure how to handle a heroquest in the heroplane with RQ3, but<br>I guess it shouldn't be that difficult. I'd say the magic that does not fit<br>
with the main character of the myth is harder to cast for PCs, and enemies<br>are usually very powerful. In your case, you will have to decide who is more<br>likely to play the part of Yelmalio and what part do the other PCs play. If<br>
they are not Yelmalio worshippers, they may have a penalty to their skills<br>(maybe one can be Yelmalio's spear, another one his shield, etc.). When<br>Zorak Zoran appears, of course his trolls will be able to cast all
his magic<br>normally, and the main character (Yelmalio) will have a penalizer to fight<br>against Zorak Zoran, as in the myth he loses. I mean, it has to be hard to<br>change the course of a myth, even more so in the case of the Hill of Gold<br>
within uz lands!<br><br>I once read on the Glorantha mailing list, that if one heroquester changes<br>the usual course of a given myth does not mean that the myth changes for<br>everyone in the world. Only when everyone starts reenacting the myth in<br>
another way does the myth change universally (in your case, Yelmalio regains<br>his power over fire). However, that can change in your Glorantha, and it<br>probably should (to make a more epic finale). :-)<br><br>At the very least, the player playing the part of Yelmalio would gain fire<br>
powers (and his companions would get some powers too).<br><br>Do you keep a campaing journal?<br><br><br><br>>
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> bit of MRQI/II) campaign I'm nearing the end... The PCs have collected<br>> the torches (c.f., Plunder) containing Yelmalio's Blood and are seeking<br>> ingress to Redstone Caverns where they will empty the torches into fire<br>
> spirit and engage in the famous Hill of Gold HeroQuest, and regain said<br>> powers for Yelmalio...<br>><br>><br>> Now I've read a few ways to conduct HeroQuests using RuneQuest... What<br>> are your recommendations?<br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 12:43 +0100, Hola Hallo wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> Your
campaign looks very interesting.<br>> <br><br>Thank you!<br><br>> I've only recently run my first heroquest in my RQ3 campaign, and it<br>> was a "this-world heroquest", as described in the Sartar book (it was<br>
> actually the River Ritual described in Sun County). That means that<br>> the power of the heroplane is invoked on the mundane plane, so<br>> everything happens in the mundane plane. <br><br>Sure, we ran through that scenario as well and like yourself I<br>
considered it HeroQuest invoked on the mundane plane... Sort of a<br>"Practise HeroQuest" to use the language I've read elsewhere...<br><br>> I'm still not sure how to handle a heroquest in the heroplane with<br>
> RQ3, but I guess it shouldn't be that difficult. I'd say the magic<br>> that does not fit with the main character of the myth is harder to<br>> cast for PCs, and enemies are usually very powerful.<br><br>
Well, I've found some rules and even some stats.
The stats are pretty<br>scary!<br><br>Rules Here<br><a href="http://soltakss.com/hero2.html" target="_blank">http://soltakss.com/hero2.html</a><br><br>Hill of Gold<br><br><a href="http://www.soltakss.com/hog0.html" target="_blank">http://www.soltakss.com/hog0.html</a><br>
<a href="http://www.soltakss.com/hog1.html" target="_blank">http://www.soltakss.com/hog1.html</a><br><br>Stats are here. Ouch.<br><a href="http://www.nikkeffingham.com/runequest/hog1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nikkeffingham.com/runequest/hog1.htm</a><br>
<br>Variants on stations here<br><a href="http://adrr.com/hero/nine.htm" target="_blank">http://adrr.com/hero/nine.htm</a><br><br><br>>? In your case, you will have to decide who is more likely to play the<br>> part of Yelmalio and what part do the other PCs play. If they are not<br>
> Yelmalio worshippers, they may have a penalty to their skills (maybe<br>> one can be Yelmalio's spear, another one his shield, etc.). When
Zorak<br>> Zoran appears, of course his trolls will be able to cast all his magic<br>> normally, and the main character (Yelmalio) will have a penalizer to<br>> fight against Zorak Zoran, as in the myth he loses. I mean, it has to<br>
> be hard to change the course of a myth, even more so in the case of<br>> the Hill of Gold within uz lands!<br><br>We have, as YGWV, some vary strange variations. There is of course the<br>Yelmalio Priest who is the head-honcho of the quest... But there is also<br>
a Agimori Lodril initiate who has come along to help... A rebellious<br>trollkin shaman who has a highly distorted version of Black Sun worship<br>(he understands that he has to protect his brother's back, where he<br>
can't see), plus his close supporter, an Adept Dark Elf, who thinks that<br>the Hill of Gold (being a forest in the darkness) has lacked the input<br>of mushrooms over the years..<br><br>As an added twist, an Eurmal Priest (yes, as
ordained by an Orlanthi<br>Priest), is coming along to take over from the role of Orlanth!<br><br>> I once read on the Glorantha mailing list, that if one heroquester<br>> changes the usual course of a given myth does not mean that the myth<br>
> changes for everyone in the world. Only when everyone starts<br>> reenacting the myth in another way does the myth change universally<br>> (in your case, Yelmalio regains his power over fire). However, that<br>
> can change in your Glorantha, and it probably should (to make a more<br>> epic finale). :-)<br>> <br><br>That's correct, I read it that way as well. The HQ changes the present.<br>The only people who had the ability to do major changes in the past were<br>
the Godlearners...<br><br>> At the very least, the player playing the part of Yelmalio would gain<br>> fire powers (and his companions would get some powers too).<br><br>At the very least indeed... They're aiming to return
fire powers back to<br>Yelmalio!<br><br>> Do you keep a campaing journal?<br><br>Sure do:<br><br><a href="http://mimesisrpg.com/mailman/listinfo/runequestprax_mimesisrpg.com" target="_blank">http://mimesisrpg.com/mailman/listinfo/runequestprax_mimesisrpg.com</a><br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br><br><br>I couldn't stay away from this thread ...<br><br>Lev Lafayette:<br>> After a 3.5 year, 70 session plus RuneQuest (mainly III, a bit of AiG, a<br>> bit of MRQI/II) campaign I'm nearing the end... The PCs have collected<br>
> the torches (c.f., Plunder) containing Yelmalio's Blood and are seeking<br>> ingress to Redstone Caverns where they will empty the torches into fire<br>> spirit and engage in the famous Hill of Gold HeroQuest, and regain said<br>
> powers for Yelmalio...<br><br><br>Sounds good to me.<br><br>> Now I've read a few ways to conduct HeroQuests using RuneQuest... What<br>> are your recommendations?<br><br>1. Don't get too rules-heavy, HeroQuests should be fast and free-flowing<br>
2. Concentrate on the Story/Myth not on the gaining of
abilities/powers<br>3. Introduce weird stuff to throw the players off their game<br>4. Don't just stick to the myth - all myths have parts that few people know and <br>many myths have several different forms<br>5. Don't be afraid to gross things up - no matter what you can think of the <br>
HeroPlane/GodPlane should be grosser<br>6. The stats on Nick's page, my page and those in Elder Secrets/Lords of Terror <br>are good guidelines for powerful enemies/combatants, but there are also weaker <br>foes on the Hero Plane.<br>
7. Don't get too hung up on terms, they are useful in that they define things <br>but can be too cumbersome<br>8. Don't say "You can't", say "You might be able to, but it could be tricky"<br>
9. Decide on the power levels that you want to use. If you are making <br>god-changing changes then the scenario/heroquest should be difficult and <br>dangerous<br>10. Allow special powers/abilities to be used creatively and inventively. If
<br>someone wants to use their Mighty Fart ability to fly over a wall then let them.<br>11. Have an idea of the scale of the reward at the end of the HeroQuest. If you <br>are changing a god then you might want to create a subcult that houses the new <br>
powers rather than immediately granting them to the whole cult.<br><br>Hola Hallo:<br><br>> I've only recently run my first heroquest in my RQ3 campaign, and it was a<br>> "this-world heroquest", as described in the Sartar book (it was actually the<br>
> River Ritual described in Sun County). That means that the power of the<br>> heroplane is invoked on the mundane plane, so everything happens in the<br>> mundane plane.<br><br><br>That's a good little Quest to do to start off with. The Myth is simple, the <br>
scope is limited and the rewards can vary. The River Voices in my campaign have <br>done this 3 times as the Questors and once as enemies to Sun Domer Questors. <br>They gained Kinope
as a year-wife twice in a row and gained some more River <br>Voice abilities the other time. By becoming more marital, they have empowered <br>and armed the Zola Fel, thus changing the balance of the river folk.<br><br>
> I'm still not sure how to handle a heroquest in the heroplane with RQ3, but<br>> I guess it shouldn't be that difficult. I'd say the magic that does not fit<br>> with the main character of the myth is harder to cast for PCs, and enemies<br>
> are usually very powerful. In your case, you will have to decide who is more<br>> likely to play the part of Yelmalio and what part do the other PCs play. If<br>> they are not Yelmalio worshippers, they may have a penalty to their skills<br>
> (maybe one can be Yelmalio's spear, another one his shield, etc.). When<br>> Zorak Zoran appears, of course his trolls will be able to cast all his magic<br>> normally, and the main character (Yelmalio) will have a penalizer to
fight<br>> against Zorak Zoran, as in the myth he loses. I mean, it has to be hard to<br>> change the course of a myth, even more so in the case of the Hill of Gold<br>> within uz lands!<br><br><br>That is true, but PCs can be sneaky and devious, putting odd people in the roles <br>
to trick the trolls. They know that Yelmalio is going to lose, so the trolls <br>will be over-confident. Stick a couple of Ever Burning Torches between their <br>ribs and they'll soon change their tune.<br><br>> I once read on the Glorantha mailing list, that if one heroquester changes<br>
> the usual course of a given myth does not mean that the myth changes for<br>> everyone in the world. Only when everyone starts reenacting the myth in<br>> another way does the myth change universally (in your case, Yelmalio regains<br>
> his power over fire). However, that can change in your Glorantha, and it<br>> probably should (to make a more epic finale).
:-)<br><br><br>Possibly, it depends on the HeroQuestor.<br><br>Gbaji changed the world instantly and permanently. The Trollkin Curse was a <br>massive change that took hold immediately, but that was because he seriously <br>
injured a major deity. The Red Moon also had an instant effect on Glorantha.<br><br>But, normal HeroQuestors will make small changes.<br><br>The way I see it, these HeroQuestors make changes on the God Plane, but people <br>
can follow other paths instead. Following the new path will bring the new <br>powers, following the old path will provide the old powers. It is only by <br>destroying the old paths that the new paths become more attractive.<br>
<br>However, it is up to the Gm to decide how he wants this to work.<br><br>> At the very least, the player playing the part of Yelmalio would gain fire<br>> powers (and his companions would get some powers too).<br>
<br><br>Probably. Perhaps the Yelmalian would get access to the
Amanstan cult of Zorak <br>Zoran or could begin an Amanstan subcult of Yelmalio.<br><br>> Well, I've found some rules and even some stats. The stats are pretty<br>> scary!<br>><br>> Rules Here<br>> <a href="http://soltakss.com/hero2.html" target="_blank">http://soltakss.com/hero2.html</a><br>
<br><br>They are the rules that I use, too :-)<br><br><br>> We have, as YGWV, some vary strange variations. There is of course the<br>> Yelmalio Priest who is the head-honcho of the quest... But there is also<br>> a Agimori Lodril initiate who has come along to help... A rebellious<br>
> trollkin shaman who has a highly distorted version of Black Sun worship<br>> (he understands that he has to protect his brother's back, where he<br>> can't see), plus his close supporter, an Adept Dark Elf, who thinks that<br>
> the Hill of Gold (being a forest in the darkness) has lacked the input<br>> of mushrooms over the years..<br><br><br>Now,
that's an interesting mix. <br><br>The Black Sun trollkin is an interesting idea and could allow the PCs to tap <br>into the mystical side of the Quest - the Shadow of Yelmalio is a mightily <br>powerful thing.<br><br>
> As an added twist, an Eurmal Priest (yes, as ordained by an Orlanthi<br>> Priest), is coming along to take over from the role of Orlanth!<br><br><br>Using the Eurmali as Orlanth is a typical trick - use a friend/ally as an <br>
opponent and that way the station can be staged/controlled. But, Eurmali are <br>tricky and dangerous, so it's not without risk.<br><br>> That's correct, I read it that way as well. The HQ changes the present.<br>
> The only people who had the ability to do major changes in the past were<br>> the Godlearners...<br><br><br>And Harmast, and Arkat, and Lokamayadon, and Gbaji, and the Seven Mothers, and <br>the Red Goddess and ...<br>
<br>> At the very least indeed... They're aiming to return fire
powers back to<br>> Yelmalio!<br><br>If you are comfortable with that then go for it. It should be very difficult, <br>though. Don't forget that HeroQuesting is "Achieving the Impossible", so it <br>might be that the PCs might have to perform some impossible tasks in order to <br>
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