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Thank you, it wasn't so desperate as it was unusual, but your point is
valid since it wasn't my first choice combination. Also remember my
suggestion was that the 90% shield parry only applies when the
character is armed with the cult shield (a Hoplon if I recall
correctly) and 1 handed spear together. the 90% shield parry would not
apply if he was armed with the Hoplon and a sword, or a kite shield and
a 1 handed spear, or any other combination. That would fit with the
whole Yelmalio thing even though it adds a wrinkle of having to
maintain two shield stats or arbitrarily halving the shield parry stat.<br>
<br>
Skol,<br>
Sven<br>
On 7/22/2010 7:42 AM, Hola Hallo wrote:
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Thanks <b>a lot</b> for your replies!!! <img goomoji="347"
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However, the examples you mention of parrying with a 1H spear don't
seem to apply in the case of this character (please correct me if I'm
wrong). For example, Björn has been kind to mention how there are
historic precedents of parrying with a lance, but this elf character is
basically going to fight on foot. Sven has mentioned his own
experience, but parrying with his 1H spear was a desperate case. I
mean, there doesn't seem be any precedent of infantry being trained to
attack <i>and parry</i> with a 1H spear. Therefore, I think I'll go
with Sven's suggestion of giving the charachter a 90% shield parry
instead. It just seems more logical for a god such as Yelmalio to give
his worshippers proficiency in the spear-and-hoplon combat style rather
than a weird proficiency in spear parry.<br>
<br>
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I see the right answer has been given allready, I just want to join in
and confirm that a 1h. spear is perfectly possible to parry with. Fiore
di Liberi even shows how you can parry a lance-attack with your own
lance, it's pretty much the same consept as when you do "winden" with
longsword<br>
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I'm just back from the re-enactmentbattle of Grunwald btw; here's a
teaser from polish TV <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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(the footage is not from this year's event). This year about 500 000
were watching, and we were about 3000 fighters on the field, 80
mounted, some 20 cannons, some 50 handguns, and some 100 archers on
each side. The rest were fighting with polearms or 1h-swords. It was 42
degrees celcius when we fought, and I've now experienced in person how
overheating is well reflected in the encumbrance-vs-fatigue-rules in
RQ3!<br>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:43:44 -0700<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vikingjarl@gmail.com">vikingjarl@gmail.com</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [Runequest] [RQ III] - Is it possible to parry with a 1H
spear?<br>
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Actually from the point of view of someone who has been fighting with
Medieval Weapons since 1958 - Yes I can imagine it & have done it.
I can tell you that the specific gift was added based on me & what
I demonstrated during the writing of the game. Steve Perrin had watched
a battle I had where I had lost my left arm during an SCA melee back in
the mid-70's and proceeded to hold off 7 guys with just a short
one-handed spear and still managed to take down 3 of them before my
companions came up & finished the rest. Admittedly this was a very
unusual case.<br>
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So it is as you can see a very valid skill. All that being said if you
so desire then you could rationally limit it to "90% to attack and
parry when armed with 1H spear & Hoplon (cult) shield". It depends
on your vision of the scenario. It would be far more common for the
attack to be with the spear & the parry with the shield & thus
the player would lose the ability if not armed specifically with the
cult shield & spear. How do you envision it?<br>
<br>
Skol,<br>
Sven<br>
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On 7/19/2010 1:53 AM, Hola Hallo wrote:<br>
Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Last day my little brother asked me to create a RQ3 character for him.
He is a fan of Link, of the Zelda videogames, so he chose to create a
green elf. He is initiate of Aldrya and Yelmalio (Halamalao), and when
he rolled for the Yelmalio gift, he got the "90% to attack and parry
with 1H spear".<br>
<br>
But, wait a second, can you imagine someone parrying attacks with a 1H
spear? O_O;<br>
<br>
Should I change this for a 90% parry with shield?<br>
Or just take the 2H-spear-90%-attack-and-parry gift instead?<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
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