<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">but gazza you were a great foot baller,don,t cry<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 28/4/10, runequest-request@rpgreview.net <I><runequest-request@rpgreview.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: runequest-request@rpgreview.net <runequest-request@rpgreview.net><BR>Subject: Runequest Digest, Vol 24, Issue 14<BR>To: runequest@rpgreview.net<BR>Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 3:00<BR><BR>
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ymailto="mailto:runequest-owner@rpgreview.net">runequest-owner@rpgreview.net</A><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Runequest digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Re: Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III (Gary Sturgess)<BR> 2. Re: Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III (Phil Hibbs)<BR> 3. Re: Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III (Gary Sturgess)<BR> 4. Re: Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III (Lev Lafayette)<BR> 5. Selling some RQ stuff (Ken & Juliane Murphy)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:02:45 +0800<BR>From: Gary Sturgess <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gazza666@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gazza666@gmail.com">gazza666@gmail.com</A>><BR>To:
RuneQuest Rules <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Runequest] Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=t2m9ebd81401004262202md0b0f893x9a8e3081089ae74c@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:t2m9ebd81401004262202md0b0f893x9a8e3081089ae74c@mail.gmail.com">t2m9ebd81401004262202md0b0f893x9a8e3081089ae74c@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On 27 April 2010 02:16, Phil Hibbs <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snarks@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:snarks@gmail.com">snarks@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> If you want to apply the training mechanic to POW, then there's<BR>> already a system for training stats. The rules state you can't train<BR>> POW, but you can ignore
that if you want. I wouldn't want to replace<BR>> "you can't train POW" with "POW is ridiculously easy to train if you<BR>> have a Disrupt spell".<BR><BR>Well, it's never going to be exactly hard. I mean, sure, they<BR>shouldn't get POW gain rolls for non-stressful situations, but an<BR>adventurer's life is generally filled with plenty of valid stressful<BR>situations. I was more interested that they were apparently getting<BR>daily POW gain checks - I thought (possibly unjustified by rules<BR>anywhere) that the basic unit of experience checks and the like was a<BR>week?<BR><BR>What I think RQ is missing - and basically most RPG systems - is skill<BR>deterioration. I was a black belt at Judo when I was 18, but I doubt<BR>20 years after giving it up I'd still be considered that level of<BR>skill (ignoring for the moment the significant decline in my physical<BR>condition ;) ). Skills that aren't used in real life tend to atrophy -<BR>not
completely, of course (an expert 20 years out of the game doesn't<BR>become a rank novice), but it isn't insignificant either. The higher<BR>the level of skill the more training you should need just to overcome<BR>atrophy.<BR><BR>But while realistic I'm not sure this would actually be fun.<BR>-- <BR>GAZZA<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:00:52 +0100<BR>From: Phil Hibbs <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snarks@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:snarks@gmail.com">snarks@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: RuneQuest Rules <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Runequest] Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A
href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=n2p8f63b7251004270100icaa8bd76s8965040866390962@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:n2p8f63b7251004270100icaa8bd76s8965040866390962@mail.gmail.com">n2p8f63b7251004270100icaa8bd76s8965040866390962@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>Gary:<BR>> But while realistic I'm not sure this would actually be fun.<BR><BR>Or dramatic - imagine if the sword that Hattori Hanzo made, breaking a<BR>thirty year vow never to make a sword again again, was a bit rubbish<BR>because he was out of practice.<BR><BR>Phil Hibbs.<BR>-- <BR>Don't you just hate self-referential sigs?<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:22:09 +0800<BR>From: Gary Sturgess <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gazza666@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gazza666@gmail.com">gazza666@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: RuneQuest Rules <<A
href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Runequest] Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h2n9ebd81401004270122x33a62088l2503e2140625f330@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:h2n9ebd81401004270122x33a62088l2503e2140625f330@mail.gmail.com">h2n9ebd81401004270122x33a62088l2503e2140625f330@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>If that hasn't already been in a Discworld novel, it should be. :)<BR><BR>On 27 April 2010 16:00, Phil Hibbs <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snarks@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:snarks@gmail.com">snarks@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> Gary:<BR>>> But while realistic I'm not sure this would actually be fun.<BR>><BR>> Or dramatic - imagine if the
sword that Hattori Hanzo made, breaking a<BR>> thirty year vow never to make a sword again again, was a bit rubbish<BR>> because he was out of practice.<BR>><BR>> Phil Hibbs.<BR>> --<BR>> Don't you just hate self-referential sigs?<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Runequest mailing list<BR>> <A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:Runequest@rpgreview.net">Runequest@rpgreview.net</A><BR>> <A href="http://rpgreview.net/mailman/listinfo/runequest_rpgreview.net" target=_blank>http://rpgreview.net/mailman/listinfo/runequest_rpgreview.net</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>GAZZA<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:59:25 +1000<BR>From: Lev Lafayette <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lev@rpgreview.net"
ymailto="mailto:lev@rpgreview.net">lev@rpgreview.net</A>><BR>To: RuneQuest Rules <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Runequest] Time and Skill Increases in RuneQuest III<BR>Message-ID: <1272380365.7752.7.camel@squirrel><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<BR><BR>On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 13:02 +0800, Gary Sturgess wrote:<BR>> On 27 April 2010 02:16, Phil Hibbs <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=snarks@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:snarks@gmail.com">snarks@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> > If you want to apply the training mechanic to POW, then there's<BR>> > already a system for training stats. The rules state you can't train<BR>> > POW, but you can ignore that if you want. I wouldn't want to replace<BR>> > "you can't train POW" with "POW is ridiculously easy
to train if you<BR>> > have a Disrupt spell".<BR>> <BR><BR>The training stats suggestion is the right yardstick for difficulty, but<BR>I must wonder whether it is plausible that one's<BR>spiritual/divine/essence connection is something that is trained or<BR>rather experienced through epiphany.<BR><BR>Maybe POW training could consist of going out into the desert and<BR>fasting for forty days and forty nights :)<BR><BR><BR>> What I think RQ is missing - and basically most RPG systems - is skill<BR>> deterioration. I was a black belt at Judo when I was 18, but I doubt<BR>> 20 years after giving it up I'd still be considered that level of<BR>> skill (ignoring for the moment the significant decline in my physical<BR>> condition ;) ).<BR><BR>I included in the Rolemaster Companion which ICE published (RMC VI,<BR>section 6.5). To translate it into RQ 3e terms would be:<BR><BR>1. Assess which skills the character hasn't used "often" or
"recently"<BR>in the past year (yes, subjective assessment).<BR>2. Roll under 75% + (INT+POW-20)<BR>3. If roll is failed, -1d6% from the skill rating<BR><BR>> But while realistic I'm not sure this would actually be fun.<BR><BR>It wasn't too onerous for adventurer-types...<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.<BR>Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?<BR>A: Top-posting.<BR>Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:52:33 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Ken & Juliane Murphy <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=booksfleamarket@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:booksfleamarket@yahoo.com">booksfleamarket@yahoo.com</A>><BR>To: <A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=runequest@rpgreview.net" ymailto="mailto:runequest@rpgreview.net">runequest@rpgreview.net</A><BR>Subject:
[Runequest] Selling some RQ stuff<BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://uk.mc275.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3854.94211.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:3854.94211.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">3854.94211.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR>Hi gang,<BR>Obvious hucksterism here, but I am selling<BR>my copy of "Sun Country" and the "RQ Down Under" con book (the one with the white cover) on ebay, and thought somebody might be interested. Of course there's the fact that I'm not computer savy enough to post a link, but a search for RQ aughtta do it?:P<BR>Best,<BR>Ken.<BR><BR><BR> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<A href="http://rpgreview.net/pipermail/runequest_rpgreview.net/attachments/20100427/ab954d27/attachment-0001.html"
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