[Runequest] Shield & armor questions
rpgstarwizard at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 10 07:17:47 EST 2010
Hi all, just some ideas about the "viking" round
long ago I was arecreational recreator lol
my friends presented me witha targ, a leather covered beast of oak and pine, metal embossed viking type shield, that had a removed 6-8 inch spike in the front
the Viking round is able to be used as a weapon, in my experience more than any other shield, it can be moved quickly etc as compared to other shield types, and I see the SR2 as truthful to what I experienced. I am short guyat 5'4 , and my reach is not the best, so learning to use a shield was kinda of important.
also because of the embossing/studding along the edges, it caught blades well without allowing them to penetrate the body too deeply, and allowed them to be "caught/knocked" aside with ease, and with spike attached, well it was a beauty and a weapon that made people take a step back when encountering, it snagged a couple bits of chain
the one experience that made me stop playing "sword and board" was a person, who with a little too many drinks and a bit of anger (something about his girlfriend say I was a cute halfling or something,lol)
he recently purchased a nice sword froma very good shop in south east USA and proceeded to hack at me, at first I thought he was having fun, but I realized he wasnt doing anything but venting
the studding along the edge ate his sword and when he pressed a hit I caught it with the spike that cracked the edge of his blade and after a few more hits his blade failed
dont get me wrong, this was a fantasy shield based on the viking round, but made with older techniques, it was oak in ront and edge the back was pine covered with think leather at the fore and edges, the studs were handmade, alternating iron , steel and brass, but made with old glues and held together nicely till my ex wife left in the basement without me realizing and it went to mold and rot
as for your idea of chain, I agree, also realize that you didnot only wear chain but an under piece as well,
From: "strobus at sympatico.ca" <strobus at sympatico.ca>
To: runequest at rpgreview.net
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:46:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Runequest] Shield & armor questions
Hey there Asher,
1. From a purely defensive standpoint, it might not seem as good, but the Viking shield has other benefits beside just AP. For one, it has soft edges and can be used to accomplish a sword-breaking manoeuvre on a special success against an unsuccessful attack (STR vs attacking weapon AP on resistance table). Also, it's a larger shield than the Target or Buckler, so if covers an extra hit location when slung (useful against arrows). Lastly, it has a weapon SR of 2 instead of 3 - meaning someone attacking with it can go sooner. I'm not sure if the last in intended, but there's no correction for it in the errata.
2. We always treated Chain Mail as soft armour for the purposes of the 'soft armour only counts for half against bludgeoning weapons'.
As for agreeing with it or not - sadly I have no actual experience with these things, so I'll defer to others. My experience with asking questions like this is that you get a lot of different answers, and, if you're lucky, impressive anecdotes from Vietnam.
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:58:27 -0800
> From: royce at efn.org
> To: runequest at rpgreview.net
> Subject: [Runequest] Shield & armor questions
> If I may impose on the expertise and experience of my fellow RQ'ers, I
> have two questions.
> First question: In RQ 3, the Viking Round shield seems a poor choice
> -- if I base my decision on armor points to encumberance ratio.
> (The Viking Round shield has 10 AP, but an encumberance of 4. The
> buckler has 8 AP and ENC = 1; the Heater/Target has 12 AP and ENC = 3.)
> Is this a good basis for judging the merits of the shields? If so,
> then why would anyone choose such a shield? If it is not a good basis
> for judging merit, then why not?
> Second question: In RQ 3, chainmail offers 7 AP, while platemail
> offers 8 AP. Only a 1-point difference. A lot of money and
> encumberance to gain that 1 point of additional protection.
> Do you agree with this? If so, why? If not, then what might you
> suggest for a house rule?
> Many thanks ahead of time for any answers, insights, etc.
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